@ "Interested"
Well said. I rarely come across a commentator as well spoken as yourself. I pretty much stumble over my own words on this blog so cheers!
The surface problems of theism vs. science seem to be a moral one, but hack away at it, and we see that it is quite clearly founded on the basic epistemological problems raised by the skeptic. In other words, how do we KNOW that we know? How do you KNOW, for example, that the computer screen in which you happen to be reading this blog is in fact a separate object from your mind? William James claimed that the very belief in an objective reality was just as unfounded as the belief in a deity (can you logically rule out that you are not in the Matrix, or a brain in a vat??), and thus science is founded on a "faith" position. On that argument we might as well rule out using empirical evidence of any kind… (because it would be based on an objective reality)
All that being said, what will intrigue you is that the solution only presents itself by turning the epistemological problem into a moral one. The theist preaches to his fellow believers NOT to question the beliefs taught by their faith, which are generally about a reality, and generally arrived at by irrational means. Meanwhile, the scientist preaches "question everything! Mystery and doubt are the source of all scientific exploration and discovery in life. It is a moral imperative in attaining knowledge!"
Which is the more virtuous method of approaching life, the universe, and everything (thank you Douglas Adams)? The answer? Why, the one that is morally correct of course! Granted, we cannot know for sure that there is an objective reality of any kind. We nevertheless BOTH assume belief in a reality as a sort of axiom in which to interact with other social beings and make our lives have purpose (if only a subjective purpose). Both so-called "faiths" (science and theism) can at least BEGIN with this much. So be it! We can't help BUT assume as much, because our minds demand it. Here's the catch: once we grant this axiom as a foundation (that we exist within a reality), we need a process that genuinely and honestly attempts to approach the TRUTH that stems from that axiom (an objective reality that provides objective evidence for observable phenomenon – "Truth" is what connects us to the real, and we use that connection-called knowledge-to learn and progress and become more functional.. but I ramble).
IF we grant the axiom that an objective reality exists (which both theists and scientists generally do - at least for functional purposes) THEN we have a responsibility to everyone around us (whose existence we grant upon that axiom) to acquire knowledge CAREFULLY and not carelessly - so as not to harm one another. Not only that, but once the axiom is assumed, many other similar arguments follow. For example, if we care about anything, we care about knowing the truth of things. We care about the truth and wisdom of political decisions, relationships, whether or not we possess the knowledge to create the perfect cup of coffee. Does this girl like me? Does that guy like me? Did I do well on the exam? These questions all possess truth values that we desperately want to know. We shouldn't jump at some whimsical conclusion we desire to be true and claim "it just IS true!" That's ridiculous, and morally wrong, and thus not virtuous. What the theist is doing is refusing to explore the argument at all, because they simply don't want to be persuaded otherwise. They want it to be true, or they're afraid it might be truth, and therefore they go on believing it IS true. Hell, I wish I could use the force, but you don't see me wearing garbs and waving a lightsaber around (unless it's Halloween or something). But more to the point, religion is based on treating people as the slaves of a mythical being. Within the Abrahamic religions especially, we humans are simply a means to the ends of a selfish God. By believing in this without tangible evidence (evidence that is extraordinary, justifying an extraordinary claim...), you are acting amoral in that you abandon all responsibility that comes with believing in the first axiom - that there IS an objective reality you reside within, and there are other people who live in it with you. Not only that, but you are abandoning your very dignity by giving up your autonomy.... but that's another argument for another day.
Phaedrus out!


